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Title: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 03, 2012, 07:01:55 pm
I have a Centurion CS3000 Model CS-2000.  2 trips ago 30 minutes of running the air conditioner, the 20 amp circuit breaker on the tandem 15/20 amp circuit breaker tripped.  I found the tandem breaker very hot; too hot hold your finger on.

I turned off the 15 amp breaker which runs 12v converter and 115V 15 amp outlets and ran off the battery.  After an hour running the air, the breaker was not warm.  I than turned off the 20 amp breaker and ran the converter after an hour the breaker was not warm.  So having experience with a few breaker that would get hot and trip. I figured I would replace the tandem 15/20 amp breaker with 2 breakers a 15 and 20 amps since there was a vacant breaker slot.

I replaced the breakers:  This time out camping it was to cool for Air.  The nights went down to high 40s.  I ran our small electric heater. Same problem? 

I open the distribution panel and to my surprise I found the 30 amp AC feed wire chard for the first few inichs that went to the Circuit Breaker bus.  What surprised me more after look at it better; Was that the 10 gage copper feed wire went to a copper lug, which was popped riveted with an aluminum rivet, which was riveted to an aluminum circuit breaker bus, which connected to copper contacts on the circuit breaker.  There was no sign of using the black aluminum corrosion inhibitor.

I thought after all those trailers burnt up during the 70s from aluminum wire. Code required any time you bonded aluminum to none aluminum you were required to use the inhibitor.

With power off, the copper supply lug could be turned by hand and some of the classic crystals fell. So for our trip, as a temp fix, I shot a sheet metal screw into the CB bus griping the lug and we ran the propane furnace.

Solution??? Now I think I have a good fix: Run a 30 amp circuit breaker to the CB bus as the main with a new the 10 gage feed wire coming into the breaker, which would get rid of the lug. Run the tandem 15/20 amp breaker for the output off the bus same as the manufacture did. Use the corrosion inhibitor on the both CB connections after cleaning the contact areas on the bus.  (There is not much of a chance to salvage the lug or bonding one properly)

Or Maybe??? Scrap the CS-2000, which over charges my battery to 12.85 and pick up a WCF-35 stepping up the DC amp output from 25 to 35 and having a 3 stage battery charger.  "CORRECTION WFCO WF-8735"

But being someone who likes to fix everything, I though, I would get some thoughts if I should salvage the CS-2000?   


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 03, 2012, 07:16:12 pm
The CS-2000 converter is a crappy converter to start with, as many of the early converters were. I wouldn't waste a nickle on it myself. You would be so much farther ahead of the game with the WCF-35 converter. 

Having said all that, I would carefully check your ground circuit as well.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 03, 2012, 08:06:37 pm
I take your suggestion to replace it with a lot of weight, because I think you normally try to fix things rather than replace them.

It's has good grounds.  It is an aluminum issue. I did not think anyone was using aluminum for 110V or greater other than for main service.  I know in two of the states I lived I have replaced the main service and they both require the black corrosion inhibitor be used with aluminum wire.

My understanding is the aluminum corrosion with the current flow develops very small crystals in a few years.  The crystals cause a very small gap between the conductors.  Current continues flow by jumping the very small gap (micro arcing) which develops the heat.





Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 03, 2012, 08:31:19 pm
I think you normally try to fix things rather than replace them.
This is true, if it can be fixed and it has value, I will fix it. However, you can't fix the fact that the converter is old technology (that can damage your battery over time) and the newer converters are true 3-stage battery chargers.

Don't get me wrong, that old converter can probably be salvaged but at some point, I would ask myself, "Why bother?". It's kinda like that old saying..... "You can't fix stupid"...... and "today".... that converter truly is stupid.

Then again, sometimes a guy just wants to "Get by" and is willing to take the time rather than spend the $. That's OK too but one would be wise to unhook the battery from that converter while hooked to shore power and charger the battery with a proper "Smart" battery charger.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 03, 2012, 10:14:19 pm
That kinda were my head is headed with the power converter.   I bought some circuit breakers, that ok since there the same  as the ones in my house and rental property.  I will use them.

But twice I was camping this year and spent an hour or so playing with it.  Do I want to nurse it along? I google the cs200 it does not look you can count on it much over 10 years.  Mine is 11 years old.

I don't think its the $'s, its more about can I fix it!  But do I want to be in BFE and have a crap out?     


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 04, 2012, 02:25:18 am
My Centurion 3000, CS2000 just started having problems, after 9 years of working fine.  The fan doesn't run, one of the four 15A DC fuses causes the overload light to come on when it's inserted.  The end result is that I am having issues with my lights, water pump and furnace.

You mentioned the WCF-35 converter.  Is it difficult to replace my converter with that one?  Are the physical dimensions the same?  What about the wiring connections?

I would rather replace my unit than "fix" it.  I can google where to find a WCF-35 converter but if you know where there is a good buy, please let me know that as well.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Oz and Us on June 04, 2012, 04:04:15 am
You would be so much farther ahead of the game with the WCF-35 converter.

Never heard of a "WCF-35" converter ... I'm guessing you mean a WFCO (World Friendship Company) converter.  The OP's CS2000 Centurion is rated @ 20 amps DC so there's no need to replace it with a 35 amp converter ... I'd suggest the WFCO 8725 (http://www.bestconverter.com/WFCO-8725P-Power-Center_p_50.html) which is not only a quality converter but also offers a proper 3-stage charging for maintaining deep cycle batteries.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 04, 2012, 07:50:48 am
Correction: WFCO WF-8735

I decided to get WF-8735 power converter, it was only about $10 more, 10 amps more, has a fan, an additional Circuit breaker slot and 1 or 2 more fuse slots. It's about the same size as the wf-8725, I belive the face might be a tad bit smaller. From what I see it is WFCO's best seller, which normaly means they invested more into quality because the payback is higher in reducing returns. 

I figured having 10 amp  surplus and fan would place my operational needs in the midle of the charts and never know when It would be nice to have an addition circuit breaker or 12v fuses.   My current CS2000 is rated for 25 amps and starcraft indicated in the owner manual not to run the 12V frig off the converter (which draws about 6 amps). So I figured cs2000 must be about maxed out with every thing running except the frig. No I not planning to run the frige off the converter, but it might be a nice option as a backup to AC coil. 

I just ordered it from www.makariosRV.com $119.00 including shiping.  Every one seem to want between 130 to 160 with shiping.  Its a compay in Indiana

From what I read it should be a very close fit.  I did not spend a lot of time seeing if it was a perfect fit, figured I could trim it out if needed.

PS: I bought a water pump about a month ago.  I pickup the SHURflo 2088-422-444 2.8 - 2.8 gl/per min fror about $70.  I also added a hose set from lowes and mounted on a foam computer mouse pad.  I',m geting old so maybe it's my hearing; but its very quite.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: mstrbill on June 04, 2012, 08:34:13 am
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I decided to get WF-8735 power converter, it was only about $10 more, 10 amps more, has a fan, an additional Circuit breaker slot and 1 or 2 more fuse slots. It's about the same size as the wf-8725, I belive the face might be a tad bit smaller. From what I see it is WFCO's best seller, which normaly means they invested more into quality because the payback is higher in reducing returns.


It appears that WFCO has changed their lineup. The 8725 and 8735 were basically clones. They even shared the same manual. But the current 8735 looks totally different than the one in my Niagara. Links for those interested:

8725 (http://www.wfcoelectronics.com/UI/Power-Centers-WFCO-WF-8725P.aspx?ptype=3&pid=4)
8735 (http://www.wfcoelectronics.com/UI/Power-Centers-WFCO-WF-8735P.aspx?ptype=3&pid=3)


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 04, 2012, 08:42:33 am
I found the same info on the WFCO models.  I printed out the specs, brochure and manual.  After work, I'll measure the existing opening to see how it fits.

The 9800 series is a deck mounted unit.  Mine is mounted on a vertical wall under a seat so the 8700 series seems a better choice.  I also agree that the 25A version is okay - that's 5A more than I have now.  If the 8735 is only $10 more and the same size, I will consider that one too.

What about the wiring?  Should all the existing wire connections for the CS2000 have corresponding connections in the WFCO-8725?


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: mstrbill on June 04, 2012, 08:50:15 am
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If the 8735 is only $10 more and the same size,

Not the same size any more

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What about the wiring?  Should all the existing wire connections for the CS2000 have corresponding connections in the WFCO-8725?

yes, but you will probably find the way the wires are connected is different. For example my OEM Magnatek converter had connectors on the 12V wires and Fleetwood used corresponding connectors on the wiring of my Bayport. The 8725 had bare wires. The newer converters have more 12V circuits so you can spread out your load more. And use one to power some cigarette outlets.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 04, 2012, 09:43:43 am
It looks like it may be smaller.  I have the WF-8725 as 14.9 x 7.3 x 5 and the WF-8735 as 11.9 x 8 x 5. I figured in worst case I would run a 2 x 3/4 board around the current oppening, router off the conners, stain and finsh it to reduce the oppening.  It should look nice and you would have to be looking closley to see it was not OEM. 

Correction above sizes are finshed size. 
Cutout are:
 - WFCO 8725     10&7/16" L x 6&1/8" H x 3&3/4" D
 - WFCO 8735     10&7/16" L x 6&7/8" H x 3&3/4" D  (there was an indication that the 8735 one measurement might be 3/4 inch larger not sure about it?)

See link to specifications http://www.wfcoelectronics.com/Images/Products/OtherDocs/3-1.pdf (http://www.wfcoelectronics.com/Images/Products/OtherDocs/3-1.pdf)

Yes, I think it will take a little time to figure out the wires and planning how I want to configure the use of the fuses.  I would like to leave at lease one 12V DC fuse as a spare because you never know when a socket go's bad.  Since I'm going from 4 - 12v fuses to 6. I could use one for some mods I planning to add: 12v lighter socket for dry camping and a car radio, which would leave me one spare 12v fuse.
 
I think I will have a 30 AMP input main breaker and use my tandem 15/20 amp breaker to supply the 20 amp Air and 15 amp 115 v outlets and protect the converter. This will leave me one open CB slot. 




Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Oz and Us on June 04, 2012, 10:55:50 am
My current CS2000 is rated for 25 amps ...

Not that it matters now that you've ordered a new WFCO converter but your Centruion CS2000 was rated for 20 amps @ 12 vdc, not 25.  Centurion never made a 25 amp version but rather a CS1200 12 amp, CS2000 20 amp, and CS3000 30 amp versions, the latter of which was never used in any popups that I know of.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 04, 2012, 11:30:01 am
My bad, I thought the starcfarf manual said I has a 25 amp converter.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 04, 2012, 03:02:50 pm
The big advantage to having the higher amp converter (in a PU) comes in if you use a generator for charging your batteries.  Your bulk charge will be faster and generator run time shorter.

If you never use a generator to charge your batteries, there isn't a lot of upside to the higher amp converter. Although, for an extra $10....... I'd go for it too.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Oz and Us on June 04, 2012, 03:22:07 pm
I have the WF-8725 as 14.9 x 7.3 x 5 and the WF-8735 as 11.9 x 8 x 5.

Dimensions that are far more important are the size of the cutout you'll need to fit the converter, which are as follows ...

WFCO 8725     10&7/16" L x 6&1/8" H x 3&3/4" D

WFCO 8735     10&7/16" L x 6&7/8" H x 3&3/4" D


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 04, 2012, 04:07:32 pm
The big advantage to having the higher amp converter (in a PU) comes in if you use a generator for charging your batteries.  Your bulk charge will be faster and generator run time shorter.

If you never use a generator to charge your batteries, there isn't a lot of upside to the higher amp converter. Although, for an extra $10....... I'd go for it too.

That a good point, did not think about the generator.  I was mainly thinking more about additional fuses, circuit breaker and i would not be pushing the converter as hard.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: mstrbill on June 04, 2012, 04:33:55 pm
Another thought about installation, if your current converter doesn't have a fan then you may need to think about setting some ducting for the WFCO. The WFCO exhausts either out the top or the back of the unit. That hot air needs a place to go. On my Bayport Fleetwood used a structurewood box to isolate the converter. So I glued plywood to it to form a duct that took the hot air to the side of the converter. There I drilled holes through the dinette front to allow the air out.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 04, 2012, 05:23:00 pm
My CS2000 has a fan, it vented out the front, there is a small vent to the outside of the trailer behind the Power converter in the cabinet.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 05, 2012, 02:39:09 am
Oz, the installation manual has cutout sizes somewhat different than you posted above but I agree that you are right, that the cutout dimensions are more important.

Having said that, I could replace my unit with the -8725 without altering the hole size.  The -8735 would require me to make the hole bigger by 3/4" on one side.

Now...the fan question:  as gemini points out, the CS2000 has a fan that is visible on the front side.  But my question is this - does the fan EXHAUST air to the outside through the front cover, or does it INTAKE air from the outside and push it through the converter where it then exhausts somewhere else?

My unit is mounted underneath a seat cushion in an enclosed area where the water tanks are.  Since the -8725 does NOT exhaust (or intake) air through the front (meaning the inside of the camper), that means that it would both intake and exhaust air through the back of the unit, all within the enclosed area under the seat.

I'm not sure if this is a factor, but from a cooling perspective it would seem to be better to circulate air that was not already being heated in a confined area...

Now, having said all that...I can't honestly say that I have ever seen the fan on my converter running, which may mean that it never has or just that I never noticed it.

It would take a little extra work to make the existing hole bigger for the -8735, but if the fan runs any decent amount at all, it might be better to get that converter and either exhaust the air into the camper or draw it in from the camper (whichever way the fan turns).

Comments?


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Oz and Us on June 05, 2012, 03:45:39 am
Oz, the installation manual has cutout sizes somewhat different than you posted above but I agree that you are right, that the cutout dimensions are more important.

Go here (https://www.coastdistribution.com/Products.aspx), click on Our Catalog, click on the RV Catalog of your choice, click on Electrical, click on 067-082 Electrical.pdf and download the .pdf file, then scroll down to near the bottom of the page where you'll find the cutout dimensions for the various models of WFCO converters.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: beemerphile1 on June 05, 2012, 04:15:58 am
My WFCO 8725P intakes air underneath and discharges on top.  I cut some paneling out below the converter and installed an HVAC cold air return grill.  On top I cut out a hole in the paneling and bent a duct from some sheet metal to discharge out the front.  Without these mods the unit would be drawing and discharging all air inside the confines of the compartment.

Might not be necessary dependent on the size of the compartment but it makes me feel more confidant that I will receive reliable service.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 05, 2012, 06:22:05 am

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La noche cae sobre una casa antigua: pasillos que guardan secretos, cuadros que miran con juicio, y una herencia que no es sólo dinero sino una red de mentiras que promete destruir a quienes la reclamen. "Infieles", la serie de Chilevisión, despliega aquí su capítulo más afilado: “La herencia”, un mosaico donde el pasado golpea con la fuerza de una cadena heredada.

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In "La Herencia," the narrative follows the show's standard format: a self-contained story where sexual desire and secrets collide. The Premise

: Like other episodes of the series, it typically features a group of characters entangled in a web of lust and deception, often centered around a family or legal dispute—in this case, an inheritance.

: The episode balances humor with suggestive scenes, utilizing the "picaresca" style common in Chilean television. It focuses on the absurd lengths characters go to satisfy their desires while navigating the social stakes of their infidelity. Visual Style : Typical of the mid-2000s and early 2010s

productions, it uses high-contrast lighting and theatrical acting to emphasize both the comedy and the sensuality of the encounters. Cast & Production

The series featured a rotating cast of prominent Chilean actors. While the specific cast for "La Herencia" varied, regular performers in the series included: Frequent Actors

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: The episode was produced to be fast-paced, usually running approximately 45 minutes, designed for late-night adult entertainment. Critical Review Entertainment Value

: The episode is often remembered for its campy, lighthearted take on heavy social taboos. It succeeds as a "popcorn" series that doesn't take itself too seriously. Cultural Context : At the time, it was a ratings hit for Chilevisión

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: While it may feel dated to modern audiences accustomed to higher-budget streaming content, it remains a cult classic for its unique "Chilean humor" and its role in the careers of many local television stars.

It seems you're asking about a piece (likely a news article, recap, or opinion piece) regarding the Chilean TV series "Infieles" from Chilevisión, specifically the segment or episode titled "La Herencia" (The Inheritance).

"Infieles" was a popular Chilean anthology drama series (2005–2011, with later reruns and specials) produced by Chilevisión. Each episode told an independent story about infidelity, often ending with a dark or ironic twist.

One of its most remembered episodes is precisely "La Herencia" (season 3, episode 12, originally aired in 2008). The plot revolves around a wealthy, unfaithful man who, after his death, leaves a peculiar will that forces his wife and lover to confront each other to claim the inheritance—a classic Infieles twist on betrayal and greed.

If you need a short critical piece or summary for "La Herencia," here's a draft:


Title: Infieles (Chilevisión): "La Herencia" – When Greed Meets Betrayal

In the twisted universe of Infieles, no sinner goes unpunished. Episode "La Herencia" delivers exactly that: a ruthless lesson on how infidelity and avarice never pay off. A powerful businessman dies suddenly, leaving behind a devastated wife and a secret lover. The catch? His will forces both women to live together in his mansion for one year. If they fail, the entire fortune goes to charity. What follows is a tense, darkly comic, and ultimately shocking battle of wits and resentments. The ending, as typical of the series, turns poetic justice into an unforgettable final scene. For fans of Chilean television drama, "La Herencia" remains a standout example of Infieles at its peak—moralistic, melodramatic, and wildly entertaining.


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The Chilean television series "Infieles", broadcast by Chilevisión (CHV), remains one of the most talked-about and culturally significant phenomena in the history of modern Chilean television [2]. Running for nearly a decade from 2005 to 2015, this dramatic comedy anthology pushed the boundaries of open-air television by blending humor, romance, and highly eroticized plots [2]. Among its many memorable episodes, the one centered on "La Herencia" (The Inheritance) stands out as a masterclass in the show's signature formula: mixing human greed with sexual desire.

Below is an in-depth exploration of the episode, its place within the "Infieles" universe, and why it captured the imagination of the Chilean public. 📺 What Was "Infieles" on Chilevisión?

Before diving into "La Herencia," it is essential to understand the cultural impact of Infieles [2]. The show was a late-night anthology series where every episode featured a self-contained story focusing on infidelity, misunderstandings, and forbidden romances [2].

The Formula: A blend of sensual situations and absurd comedic timing.

The Appeal: It featured a rotating cast of some of Chile's most famous actors and physical models.

The Atmosphere: Seductive, playful, and distinctly Chilean in its slang and humor.

While criticized by some for its explicit nature, it was a massive ratings success for Chilevisión and became a staple of Chilean pop culture [2]. 💰 "La Herencia": Plot and Themes

In the episode titled "La Herencia," the writers utilized one of the oldest storytelling tropes—a disputed family inheritance—and gave it the classic, spicy Infieles twist. The Core Conflict

The story revolves around a wealthy patriarch who passes away, leaving behind a substantial fortune. Naturally, this attracts family members, spouses, and opportunistic outsiders who are all eager to get a piece of the pie. Key Narrative Elements

Greed vs. Lust: Characters quickly realize that they can use their physical charms to manipulate others into giving up their share of the inheritance.

The Web of Lies: As the characters plot against each other, secret affairs are exposed, leading to the hilarious and chaotic climaxes the show is famous for.

Classic Comedy of Errors: Door-slamming, hiding under beds, and accidental run-ins fuel the narrative pace. 🎭 The Cast and Character Dynamics

What made "La Herencia" and other episodes of Infieles so successful was the dedication of the cast. The actors had to balance highly stylized, sexy performances with precise comedic acting. la serie infieles de chilevicion la herencia

The episode featured typical archetypes seen throughout the series:

The Scheming Relative: Willing to sleep with whoever it takes to secure the money.

The Naive Partner: Completely oblivious to the cheating happening right under their nose.

The Seductive Outsider: Often a lawyer, a maid, or a distant friend who throws a wrench into everyone's plans. 🌟 Why "La Herencia" Resonated with Audiences

"La Herencia" encapsulated everything that made the series a late-night giant in Chile:

Relatable Taboos: While exaggerated, the themes of family greed and infidelity resonated with the audience's guilty pleasures.

Escapism: It offered a lighthearted, adult escape from the heavy dramas and news broadcasts of the time.

Cultural Specificity: The dialogue was packed with local Chilean slang (chilenismos), making the absurd situations feel closer to home. 🚀 The Lasting Legacy of "Infieles"

Years after its final broadcast in 2015, Infieles continues to live on through internet culture [2]. Clips of popular episodes like "La Herencia" frequently go viral on YouTube and TikTok, introducing a new generation to the show's campy, erotic humor.

It pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable on Chilean broadcast television and proved that a show could be both incredibly provocative and massively popular.

In the style of the Chilevisión series Infieles , which blends erotic comedy with domestic mischief, a story titled " La Herencia

" (The Inheritance) typically follows a formula of greed, hidden desires, and unexpected twists.

Based on the show’s established themes, here is a developed plot for such an episode: "La Herencia" – Plot Outline

The Setup: Don Segundo, a wealthy but eccentric patriarch, has recently passed away. His legal heir is his much younger, "grieving" widow, Vanessa, who is suspected by the rest of the family of being a gold-digger.

The Conflict: To claim the full inheritance, a specific clause in the will requires Vanessa to live in the family mansion for one month with Segundo’s estranged, handsome nephew, nacho. The catch? Nacho is a notorious womanizer, and any "indiscretion" recorded by the house’s old-fashioned butler would void the inheritance for both.

The Infidelity: While Vanessa and Nacho initially despise each other, the forced proximity leads to a "cat and mouse" game of seduction. Vanessa tries to tempt Nacho to break the rules so she can claim the money alone, but she finds herself actually falling for his charms.

The Twist: On the final night, the butler reveals a hidden camera, but not for the reasons they think. It turns out Don Segundo isn't actually dead—he faked his passing to see who in his family was truly loyal and who was only after his "inheritance."

The Climax: Caught in a compromising position, Vanessa and Nacho must decide whether to choose the money or the genuine (if scandalous) connection they've formed. In true Infieles fashion, the episode ends with a humorous, steamy resolution where everyone gets a bit less than they bargained for, but more than they expected. Key Characteristics of the Series Tone: Raunchy humor mixed with situational irony.

Setting: Usually revolving around a single location (like a house, office, or gym) to heighten the tension.

Recurring Themes: Power imbalances in relationships and the "sweet but bitter" temptations of cheating. Infieles (TV Mini Series 2005–2014) - Episode list - IMDb

The Chilean series " ", which aired on Chilevisión between 2005 and 2014, is a landmark of national television known for its blend of erotic comedy and social satire. The "Infieles" Phenomenon

Directed under a lens of "mischief and humor," the series explores the various circumstances that lead people into infidelity—ranging from marital boredom and sexual dissatisfaction to simple, opportunistic moments. While often labeled as "the show everyone watched but no one admits to," it remains a significant piece of Chilean pop culture due to its high viewership and bold themes. Episode Spotlight: "La Herencia"

In the specific episode "La Herencia" (The Inheritance), the plot typically follows the show's signature formula of putting characters in absurd, high-stakes situations where money and lust collide.

The Plot: The story centers on the death of a patriarch or a wealthy relative, which triggers a scramble among potential heirs. True to the series' style, the quest for the "inheritance" is complicated by secret affairs and hidden motives.

Recurring Themes: Like many episodes of the series, it uses a "favorable moment" or a crisis—in this case, a funeral or the reading of a will—to expose the deteriorating or unpleasant attitudes of the characters. Key Characteristics of the Series

Format: It is an anthology series, meaning each episode features a standalone story with a different cast.

Core Cast: Throughout its 10 seasons, the show featured notable Chilean actors including Yamila Reyna, Eduardo Paxeco, and Noelia Arias.

Legacy: Despite its "raunchy" nature, the series is credited with bringing "the spicy" to primetime TV without losing a sense of lightheartedness. Where to Watch

While Chilevisión was the original broadcaster, episodes and clips can still be found on their official YouTube playlist, and full seasons are sometimes available on streaming platforms like Tubi. Infieles (TV Series 2010–2017) - IMDb

It seems you're looking for the text or details about the Chilean series "Infieles" from Chilevisión, specifically the segment or chapter titled "La Herencia" .

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"Infieles" was a Chilean anthology TV series (2005–2013) where each episode told a different story about infidelity, often with dramatic and tragic endings.

"La Herencia" (The Inheritance) is one of the episodes. The plot typically involves a family conflict over an inheritance, intertwined with betrayal and infidelity. However, the exact script or full text of this episode is not publicly available online due to copyright.

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The episode La Herencia belongs to the Chilean anthology series , produced by Chilevisión (CHV)

. The series is known for its comedic and often risqué dramatizations of Chilean intimate life and infidelities. Episode Overview: "La Herencia" La noche cae sobre una casa antigua: pasillos

While specific plot summaries for every individual episode of

are not always officially archived, "La Herencia" typically follows the show's signature formula:

: A story centered around family disputes or romantic entanglements triggered by a financial inheritance or a will.

: A self-contained "mini-movie" format, usually lasting between 30 to 50 minutes.

: Uses "picardía chilena" (Chilean wit), blending eroticism with situational comedy. Common Cast Members

The series featured a rotating cast of well-known Chilean actors. While the specific cast for "La Herencia" varies by production season, frequent Infieles actors Noelia Arias (Cinthia/Sofia) Eduardo Paxeco (Santiago/Juan Pablo) Yamila Reyna (Lorna/Lourdes) Álvaro Gómez Cristián Arriagada How to Watch Official Website

: Chilevisión occasionally re-releases classic episodes on their Infieles section : Many full episodes and clips are available on the CHV Series y Teleseries YouTube channel exact release year for this episode?

Infieles (Miniserie de TV 2005–2014) - Elenco y equipo completo - IMDb

Elenco * Eduardo Paxeco. Santiago. /Juan Pablo. /... ... * Yamila Reyna. Lorna. /Lourdes. 5 episodios • 2005–2012. * Noelia Arias.

The Chilean series , produced and broadcast by Chilevisión between 2005 and 2014, is an erotic comedy anthology exploring themes of infidelity, human desire, and domestic conflict. While often confused with the 2022 Mexican telenovela La Herencia , the "La Herencia" episode of

follows the show's signature format of independent, self-contained stories focused on the humorous and often scandalous results of secret affairs. Overview of " La Herencia

This specific chapter utilizes the trope of a family inheritance to trigger a web of lies and sexual tension. Central Plot

: The story typically revolves around the death of a family patriarch or relative, leaving behind a significant inheritance. The tension arises when the potential heirs must interact—often leading to seductions, "one-night stands," or the exposure of long-term cheating to secure a piece of the fortune. Thematic Focus

: Unlike a traditional drama, "La Herencia" uses the legal and financial stakes of a will as a comedic backdrop for erotic encounters.

: Raunchy and lighthearted, consistent with the series' reputation for mixing "erotic comedy" with relatable Chilean social scenarios. Cast and Production

anthology frequently rotated its cast, featuring prominent Chilean actors known for comedy and television. Notable Actors

: While cast lists for specific episodes can vary, the series frequently featured Felipe Contreras Noelia Arias Rodrigo Meza

: Episodes generally run between 25 and 45 minutes and are presented as independent "short films". Distinguishing from the 2022 Telenovela

It is important to note that a widely known telenovela titled La Herencia (2022) stars Michelle Renaud

and follows five brothers fighting over a family ranch after their father's death. This is a separate production

from the Chilevisión series, though both deal with inheritance as a core plot device. Availability La Herencia (TV Series 2022– ) - IMDb

Infieles de Chilevisión: Análisis del Capítulo "La Herencia"

La serie "Infieles", producida por Chilevisión, se consolidó como uno de los programas más emblemáticos de la televisión chilena entre 2005 y 2014. A través de un formato de unitarios, la producción exploraba con humor y picardía las complejidades de las relaciones de pareja, centrándose en el deseo, el engaño y las situaciones absurdas que llevan a la infidelidad. Infieles (TV Mini Series 2005–2014) - Episode list - IMDb

Aquí tienes un artículo completo y detallado sobre el capítulo especial de la serie chilena.


Antes de sumergirnos en "La Herencia", es fundamental entender el fenómeno que representa "Infieles" . Esta antología de capítulos autoconclusivos, que comenzó como una apuesta arriesgada, se convirtió en un verdadero hit de sintonía para Chilevisión. La premisa era simple pero efectiva: explorar las consecuencias emocionales, sociales y a veces criminales de la infidelidad.

Cada episodio presentaba un elenco rotativo de rostros conocidos del espectáculo nacional, desde figuras consagradas hasta promesas juveniles. El éxito del formato radicó en su crudeza. A diferencia de otras telenovelas que romantizaban el engaño, la serie infieles de Chilevisión mostraba el lado oscuro de las relaciones, con finales que a menudo dejaban al público con la boca abierta. Fue un fenómeno de culto que allanó el camino para que el canal se atreviera con tramas más complejas.

Cuando hablamos de melodramas memorables en la televisión chilena, es imposible no mencionar a Chilevisión y su capacidad para capturar la atención del público con historias audaces. Dentro de su catálogo de éxitos, la unidad de ficción del canal ha producido títulos que generaron horas de conversación en el país. Sin embargo, el término que ha empezado a resonar con fuerza en foros y redes sociales en los últimos meses es la combinación entre la serie infieles de Chilevisión y su conexión con un proyecto específico: "La Herencia" .

¿De qué trata exactamente esta conexión? ¿Es "La Herencia" una nueva temporada de la famosa saga "Infieles"? ¿O es un spin-off que retoma la esencia de las traiciones y los secretos? A continuación, desglosamos todo lo que necesitas saber sobre este potente cruce de títulos que tiene intrigados a los fanáticos de las teleseries chilenas.

La herencia " is an episode from the popular Chilean erotic comedy series Infieles, which aired on Chilevisión (CHV). The show typically focuses on the humorous and often scandalous situations that lead couples to infidelity. 📺 Episode Overview: "La herencia"

While the series featured many standalone episodes with rotating casts, "La herencia" (The Inheritance) typically follows the standard show format: Genre: Erotic comedy / Dramedy.

Central Theme: A conflict or temptation involving a significant financial or property inheritance that triggers a betrayal.

Tone: Playful, "picaresque," and focused on the consequences of secrets within a family or relationship. 🎭 Cast Members

The series often featured well-known Chilean actors. While specific credits for this exact episode can vary in archives, recurring and guest stars across the Infieles series include: Carolina Oliva Iñigo Urrutia Yamila Reyna Eduardo Paxeco Elvira Cristi Alejandro Trejo ⚠️ Important Distinction

Be careful not to confuse this with the 2022 Mexican telenovela "La herencia: un legado de amor" starring Michelle Renaud and Matías Novoa, which is a traditional long-form drama. The Chilevisión version is a shorter, adult-oriented comedy episode.

💡 Pro Tip: You can often find full episodes of Infieles on the official Chilevisión website or their YouTube channel, where they archive classic Chilean television content. A detailed plot summary of the events in "La herencia"?

Information on where to stream old episodes of Infieles legally? La Herencia (TV Series 2022– ) Title: Infieles (Chilevisión): "La Herencia" – When Greed

The Chilean series broadcast by Chilevisión (CHV) , is an erotic comedy anthology that explore the humorous and often scandalous situations leading to infidelity in modern relationships. "La Herencia" Episode Overview

While "Infieles" consists of numerous independent stories across 10 seasons, the episode "La Herencia"

(The Inheritance) typically follows the show's signature formula: a mix of mischief, sexual tension, and ironic twists. Plot Concept

: Like many episodes in the series, it focuses on characters driven by desire or circumstance to seek "comfort" outside their primary relationship. In "La Herencia," the plot specifically revolves around a family inheritance or legacy that becomes the catalyst for a web of lies and clandestine encounters.

: The episode maintains a lighthearted, "mischievous" tone characteristic of the 2005–2014 run, using humor to navigate the complications of betrayal. Recurring Themes

: Common motives in these episodes include sexual dissatisfaction, seizing a "favorable moment" without thinking, or the deterioration of long-term habits. Series Background Production

: The series was a staple of Chilean late-night television, produced by Chilevisión and featuring a rotating cast of well-known local actors. Notable Cast : Frequent performers across the seasons included Noelia Arias Eduardo Paxeco Yamila Reyna , who portrayed different characters in various episodes.

: With 87 episodes produced, it remains one of the most recognized erotic comedies in Latin American television. Further Exploration Watch original clips and full episodes on the CHV Series y Teleseries YouTube channel Review the complete list of seasons and episodes on Explore the official series portal on Chilevisión's website for archival content and top-rated moments. full cast list

for this specific episode, or would you like to find where to stream "La Herencia" Infieles (TV Mini Series 2005–2014) - IMDb

La Herencia " es un capítulo de la popular serie antológica chilena

, emitida originalmente por Chilevisión. Esta serie se caracteriza por presentar historias unitarias e independientes en cada episodio, centradas en situaciones de picardía, tentación y enredos amorosos. Sinopsis del Capítulo

Aunque la trama específica varía según el episodio, los capítulos de Infieles suelen seguir una estructura donde un evento cotidiano —en este caso, la disputa o recepción de una herencia— desencadena conflictos de pareja y situaciones cómicas o eróticas. Generalmente, la ambición por el dinero o los bienes heredados lleva a los protagonistas a ocultar secretos o entablar relaciones prohibidas para asegurar su beneficio personal. Detalles de la Serie Origen: Chile. Género: Comedia dramática / Erótico.

Formato: Serie antológica (historias diferentes cada semana).

Transmisión original: Chilevisión (CHV) entre 2005 y 2014.

Temporadas: La serie contó con un total de 10 temporadas y 87 episodios. Dónde Verlo

Actualmente, puedes encontrar capítulos de Infieles en las siguientes plataformas:

YouTube: El canal oficial de Chilevisión mantiene listas de reproducción con episodios completos.

Streaming: Algunos episodios han estado disponibles en servicios como Canela TV y Prime Video bajo demanda.

TV Abierta: En Chile, la serie ha tenido reestrenos en canales como TV+.

¿Te gustaría que te ayude a encontrar el elenco específico de este capítulo o algún otro episodio en particular?

El capítulo titulado "La Herencia" es uno de los episodios de la exitosa serie antológica chilena Infieles, emitida originalmente por Chilevisión. La serie se caracteriza por presentar historias unitarias cargadas de humor, picardía y situaciones de pareja llevadas al límite. Sinopsis de "La Herencia"

En este episodio, la trama gira en torno a la codicia y los enredos sexuales que surgen tras la muerte de un familiar adinerado. Los protagonistas se ven envueltos en una disputa por el patrimonio familiar, donde las alianzas secretas y las traiciones amorosas son la moneda de cambio para asegurar una parte del botín. Fiel al estilo de la serie, el conflicto económico se mezcla con encuentros apasionados y malentendidos cómicos. Detalles de la Serie

Formato: Antología (cada capítulo es una historia independiente con distintos actores). Género: Comedia dramática / Erótico ligero. Plataformas de visualización:

Muchos episodios están disponibles en el canal oficial de Infieles en YouTube.

Puedes encontrar temporadas completas en plataformas de streaming como Canela TV o consultar disponibilidad regional en Max (antes HBO Max).

Producción: Contó con 10 temporadas y aproximadamente 87 episodios que marcaron una época en la televisión chilena por su estilo desenfadado.

¿Te gustaría que te ayude a encontrar el reparto específico de este capítulo o buscas algún otro episodio en particular?

¡Claro! A continuación, te dejo un post útil sobre la serie "Infieles" de Chilevisión y su relación con "La Herencia":

Título: La verdad detrás de "Infieles" y su conexión con "La Herencia" en Chilevisión

Resumen: La serie "Infieles" de Chilevisión ha generado gran revuelo en la audiencia chilena debido a su contenido explícito y polémico. Pero, ¿qué relación tiene con "La Herencia"? A continuación, te contamos los detalles.

La serie "Infieles": "Infieles" es una serie de televisión chilena que se estrenó en 2019 en Chilevisión. La trama sigue a un grupo de personas que se ven envueltas en situaciones de infidelidad, mentiras y engaños en sus relaciones amorosas. La serie ha generado gran controversia debido a sus escenas explícitas y su lenguaje crudo.

La conexión con "La Herencia": "La Herencia" es un programa de televisión chileno que se emite en Chilevisión, en el que un grupo de personas compiten por heredar una fortuna. La sorpresa es que algunos de los personajes de "Infieles" han aparecido en "La Herencia", generando un vínculo entre ambas series.

La explicación: Según fuentes cercanas a la producción, algunos de los actores que participan en "Infieles" también son parte del elenco de "La Herencia". Esto se debe a que ambos programas comparten productora y equipo de producción. Los actores han aprovechado la oportunidad de trabajar en ambos proyectos, lo que ha generado un crossover entre las dos series.

Reacciones del público: La noticia ha generado reacciones diversas en el público. Algunos fanáticos de "Infieles" se han mostrado sorprendidos y emocionados por ver a sus personajes favoritos en "La Herencia". Otros, sin embargo, han expresado su descontento por la supuesta "mezcla" de géneros entre ambas series.

Conclusión: En resumen, la serie "Infieles" de Chilevisión tiene una conexión con "La Herencia" a través de sus actores y equipo de producción. Esto ha generado un vínculo entre ambas series y ha sorprendido al público. ¿Qué te parece esta noticia? ¿Eres fanático de alguna de estas series?

Espero que esta información te sea útil. ¡Si tienes alguna otra pregunta o necesitas más ayuda, no dudes en preguntar!

Aquí tienes una propuesta completa para un post de blog, estructurado para ser atractivo, SEO-friendly y que capture la esencia del fenómeno televisivo.




Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 06, 2012, 02:34:22 am
Just bought the 8735 from AdventureRV.net for $110.  I'm pretty sure that I will have to increase the hole size on one side by 3/4", but that shouldn't be too difficult.  And that way I will know that I am venting the unit the best way I can.  I'm planning on using the CB's from my current unit, which are 15 and 20 amps, even though this new unit will be able to use larger ones.

Thanks to everyone here for helping!


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 06, 2012, 05:56:17 am
I order mine on monday, it was 108 with shiping 118.  It shipped via ground, so I should see it next week. I agree it should be a good  fit with a little mod the current hole, and I have lots of space around the current one.  I'm waiting to see the back of the unit  The pictures look like there is no vents on the back and that it's cooling is all in the front?  If so, I will close up the vent hole on the side of my camper.

I think I will need to buy a 30 AMP main braker? Not sure about it because the way the product info was writen? But should be able to pick up one a lowes.

I limp it along for the next weekend out camping. But I would like to have it installed before our 9 day 1,400 mile trip trip up the west side of lake Michagan and into the UP at the end of june.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 06, 2012, 07:01:05 am
I don't think you have to change the CB if you don't want to. Since my CS2000 has a 15 and a 20 amp breaker now, I'm just going to use them. I don't need the extra power so why spend the money?


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 06, 2012, 07:19:57 am
I agree, but I think there is a 30 amp main breaker needed. I could not figure out if it is supplied or you need to buy it.  At lowes, the square d HOM breaker should be less than $10 dollars. 

I'm planning to use the 15/20 amp breaker. 

Also; I am thinking to add another 15 amp breaker so I can have the (115v - 15 amp AC outlets) and the (power converter/battery charger) on a diffrent circuits. That additional breaker at lowes is less than $5.  My thoughts is; if one of those circutes has a problem, why have both on the same circuit breaker and have both not working.  I like to have as many work arounds for the field as I can.

The 20 amp breaker will still be used by the air conditioner.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: beemerphile1 on June 06, 2012, 08:56:18 am
The 30a main breaker isn't absolutely necessary since you will be protected by the 30a breaker in the campground pedestal. 

I installed a 30a main breaker in mine because I think it is a good idea. 

I sometimes use an adapter to plug into the 50a circuit in the campground pedestal.  My 30a main provides the protection for the system in that case because the wiring can't handle 50a.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 06, 2012, 11:35:52 am
Gemini, I like your idea of separating the 15A circuits. I'm trying to understand exactly what that means. If there was a problem with one of the AC outlets, for example, and you had to turn off the 15A CB, then the converter would stop charging the battery?

Is that right?


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 06, 2012, 12:48:31 pm
Gemini, I like your idea of separating the 15A circuits. I'm trying to understand exactly what that means. If there was a problem with one of the AC outlets, for example, and you had to turn off the 15A CB, then the converter would stop charging the battery?

Is that right?
He meant if he has a short in an outlet, the outlet breaker would trip but the breaker to the converter will still be operational and he could still use his 12V circuit without fear of the battery going dead.

Conversely, if the converter shorts out (tripping that separate breaker), he will still have use of his 110V outlets. This would also allow him to plug in a battery charger to the outside outlet and keep the battery charged.

That's exactly how my TrailManor comes wired from the factory.....2, 15A breakers and 1, 20A breaker.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 06, 2012, 12:59:16 pm
Yes, That is how my sratcraft Gemini is.  I have 2 breakers 1 is only for the air conditioner (20 amps) the other (15 amp) feed and protects the outlets and power converter/battery charger.

so if I trip that braker I lose all 115V outlets and frige, all 12v (lights, pump, furance will switch over to the battery) and battery charger. The only thing still running is the air conditioner and the lights, pump, furance which switched over to the battery.

I'm going to split the one 15 amp breaker into 2, 15 amp breakers; ( I will just need to add one 15 amp breaker)
 - 1st - 115v outlets including the frige,
 - 2nd - 115v supply to the 12v converter (lights, pump, furance and battery charger). Keep in mine if this breaker trips everything will run off the battery and I may not know it was triped until the battery is dead.  But I'm not sure if my curent 15 amp breaker trips, I would know until the DW tells me the Frige is getting warm.
 


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 06, 2012, 01:51:08 pm
Yes, That is how my sratcraft Gemini is.  I have 2 breakers 1 is only for the air conditioner (20 amps) the other (15 amp) feed and protects the outlets and power converter/battery charger.

so if I trip that braker I lose all 115V outlets and frige, all 12v (lights, pump, furance will switch over to the battery) and battery charger. The only thing still running is the air conditioner and the lights, pump, furance which switched over to the battery.

I'm going to split the one 15 amp breaker into 2, 15 amp breakers; ( I will just need to add one 15 amp breaker)
 - 1st - 115v outlets including the frige,
 - 2nd - 115v supply to the 12v converter (lights, pump, furance and battery charger). Keep in mine if this breaker trips everything will run off the battery and I may not know it was triped until the battery is dead.  But I'm not sure if my curent 15 amp breaker trips, I would know until the DW tells me the Frige is getting warm.
 
Some breakers are available with a buzzer when the breaker trips.  [;)] However, I think you would catch on the first time that you turned on the water and the lights dimmed.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 06, 2012, 05:34:53 pm
the wf-8735 power converter just arived.  The back is tighter than a drum.  There is no ventilation on the back. All ventilation is on the front. I think when I take out the cs-2000 I will seal the outside vent in that cabinet from the inside.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 06, 2012, 06:36:37 pm
The only thing that I would have to figure out, then, is how to split off the battery charging circuit to the second 15A CB. I know that is easy for some of you but it's intimidating when you've never done it before.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 06, 2012, 07:12:58 pm
The only thing that I would have to figure out, then, is how to split off the battery charging circuit to the second 15A CB. I know that is easy for some of you but it's intimidating when you've never done it before.
Just one piece of advise........ make sure that the trailer is not plugged in and the battery is disconnected..... [:o)]


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 06, 2012, 09:22:53 pm
The only thing that I would have to figure out, then, is how to split off the battery charging circuit to the second 15A CB. I know that is easy for some of you but it's intimidating when you've never done it before.

I hate to give advice on wiring. The DW when I'm working with wiring call me sparky.

If you are going to work on it unplug your shore power and disconnect the battery and tape off the battery wires to make sure if they get moved  an make connection.

I would recommend you get some help.  But here is some baics: With 115 V Ac, black most of the time is the hot wire, but the rule can change and don't count on the color.  White in normaly ground, same thing the rule can change.  Green or bare copper is normally chassis ground, it can also be called frame ground and earth ground, but the rule can change on green. 

Since your coming from a CS-2000 with one 15 amp breaker controlling 2 circuits.  What you most likely will find; the output from the 15 amp circuit breaker will have one wire because that is code, but somewhere in the unit the 2 circuits will come together using a wire nut.  One of the wires will be you 115v outlets the other will stay internal to the box to power the DC converter/charger.  The wire that goes external from the box is most likely your 115v outlets.  This will most likely be one of your new 15 amp circuits

In you new box you should find a lose black wire in the circuit breaker part of the box.  This will be you second 15 amp circuit breaker.  This wire might have a pigtail to be use if you are only going to have one 15 amp breaker, you would wire nut the 115v outlets to it.  If you are going to have 2 15 amp circuit breakers you need to cut off the pigtail.

you will have dc circuits that you will not be using, make sure you cut the strip end of the wires off, and tape the ends of the wire with good electrical tape, also don't put fuses in the unused dc circuits.  If you don't do a good job with these circuits, your wife will call you sparky!

Make sure you shore power cord colors make sense, and the wires go where you would expect them to go in the old unit,  before you disconnect them from the old unit.  If they do not make make sense note of how it was wired.

But I still think you should get someone with wiring experience to help you!  If you cross your wires, you could blow the new controller and they will not replace.



Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 07, 2012, 05:06:49 am
Unplugging shore power and disconnecting the battery is good for protecting yourself while working on it, but if you wire it up incorrectly, then hook up battery and shore, I guess you're likely to blow something...or pop the breaker.

gemini, thanks for the long write up.  I plan to label the wires BEFORE disconnecting them from the old unit just to make sure that I can reconnect later if needed.  Also, I plan to open both units BEFORE disconnecting and try to match up how I think the wires will be wired in the new unit, then label the wires in the new unit, again BEFORE disconnecting the old unit.  If I can match them all up and label them, then it should be easy to reconnect to the new unit.

I have a period of time coming up where I won't be camping for 3-4 weeks so I will have plenty of time to work on it.

Now, to add to my camper/electrical understanding....this is my understanding of the current CS2000 setup:

1.  Power to the converter comes from the shore power (AC) connection
2.  The shore power goes into the converter box, straight to the two breakers (15A & 20A)
3.  One wire comes out of the 15A breaker and physically runs to the AC outlets
4.  Another wire comes out of the 15A breaker and goes [somewhere] to power the converter itself [and also to charge the battery?]
5.  Because the converter powers the 12v DC items, there must be one or more wires that come out of the converter and physically run to the DC items like ceiling lights, water pump, etc.
6.  A third wire from the shore cable goes to the 20A breaker to power the air conditioner

This is my understanding of the future WFCO-8735 setup:

1.  Power to the converter comes from the shore power (AC) connection
2.  The shore power goes into the converter box, straight to three breakers (2 15A & 1 20A)
3.  One wire comes out of a 15A breaker and physically runs to the AC outlets
4.  Another wire comes out of the second 15A breaker and goes [somewhere] to power the converter itself [and also to charge the battery?]
5.  Because the converter powers the 12v DC items, there must be one or more wires that come out of the converter and physically run to the DC items like ceiling lights, water pump, etc.
6.  A third wire from the shore cable goes to the 20A breaker to power the air conditioner

Questions:

1.  How does the second (extra) 15A breaker get hooked up to the same shore cable?  Actually, it's probably the same way that the 15A and 20A breakers are connected now.

So the main difference is:
1.  Hooking up the second 15A CB to shore power
2.  Moving the wire that powers the converter and battery charging circuit from the current 15A CB to the new CB

How much of that did I get wrong?  Be nice.   [:)]







Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 07, 2012, 07:53:40 am
The converter really is 2 separate devices in one package.

The first device is nothing more than a "Power distribution panel" (top half of pic #1).

The second device is nothing more than a "Battery Charger" (bottom half of pic #1).

The power distribution panel receives AC power through the power cord and that power goes to a "Bus bar". There can be any # of CBs on the bus bar. In this case, there are 3. The AC current is then distributed to the different areas that you mentioned.

The CB that send AC to the "Converter" (battery charger) side of the system goes to a printed circuit board with a lot of diodes, filters, resistors etc. The 110V AC is there "Converted" to 12V DC....... The 12V DC current then goes to another bus bar where there are 12V fuses located that power is distributed (through fuses) to different areas of the camper to do different 12V jobs. One of those areas is the camper battery. What happens with the in-coming and out-going power to that particular circuit is managed by the main circuit panel and is the main function of the converter.

It really isn't any more complicated than that. Think of it as 2 separate and distinct devices. In fact, on my camper, I removed the "Converter part of the "Converter" and through it in the trash (leaving the power distribution part of the converter). I then installed a new "converter" in a completely different part of the camper. I merely ran the AC line from the CB on the now "Distribution panel" to the front of the camper, which powers the converter and hooked my battery to the converter. I then have a fused 12V line attached to the battery/converter line and going back to the "distribution panel" to the fuse bus bar that powers the 12V side of the camper.

Here is my panel with the 12V converter still in place on the bottom half of the panel:
The 110V can be seen on the left side (black & white wires).
On the right side, you see the blue (12v out) wire going to the 12V fuse bus. The red wire going to the battery and the white ground wire..... that's it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/wkavery/ConverterInstall001.jpg)

I ripped out the 12V "Converter portion:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/wkavery/ConverterInstall006.jpg)

Then I installed a new 45A converter only in it's place:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/wkavery/ConverterInstall011.jpg)

I later decided to move the "Converter" to a different place.... it's the small box on the right:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/wkavery/ConverterInstall013.jpg)

So, you see, they really are 2 very separate and distinct devices packaged in one box.

These pics have nothing to do with your particular converters. They are only intended to help lay out the function of any converter. The converter pictured clearly lays out the separation of the 2 devices and that's why I posted them. There is far too much "Mystique" in the converter world. In reality, a "converter" is nothing more than a power distribution panel and a battery charger. Once one comes to grips with that reality, it greatly simplifies the installation of any converter.......... or not.... :-\




Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 07, 2012, 08:03:14 am
Corrections to you assumptions:

CS2000
1.  Power to the converter comes from the shore power (AC) connection
2.  The shore power goes into the converter box, straight to a lug on the circuit breaker distribution bus the bus feeds  (15A & 1 20A)
3.  One wire comes out of a 15A breaker and physically gos to a wire nut that ties the AC outlets wire and a wire to the power the converter itself to the 15 amp breaker
5.  Because the converter powers the 12v DC items, there must be one or more wires that come out of the converter and physically run to the DC items like ceiling lights, water pump, etc. there will be as many wires as fuse positions, plus a battery wire and 1 or 2 ground wires
6.  the 20A breaker to power the air conditioner is powered off the circuit breaker distribution bus


This is my understanding of the future WFCO-8735 setup:

1.  Power to the converter comes from the shore power (AC) connection
2.  The shore power goes into the converter box, straight into the 30 amp breaker lug (main) which feeds the the circuit breaker distribution bus that the  2 15A amd 1 20 amp will will be connected to
3.  One wire comes out of a 15A breaker and physically runs to the AC outlets
4.  Another wire comes out of the second 15A breaker and goes [somewhere] to power the converter itself [and also to charge the battery?] you should find a black wire in the circuit breaker part of the box that is not terminated anywhere.  It might have a pig tail on it, if using 2 15A breakers, cut off the pigtail
5.  Because the converter powers the 12v DC items, there must be one or more wires that come out of the converter and physically run to the DC items like ceiling lights, water pump, etc. There will be 8 or nine wires one for each fuse position, which you want to connect youy labeled wires to and use the same amp fuse that was used in the CS2000, there will be a battery wire and 1 or 2 ground wires.  Any unused dc circuits you should cut off the striped ends and tape them well with good electral tape, I would not put fuses in those positions. But if the red led light up I would put low amp fuses in them to keep the leds off
6.  20A breaker to power the air conditioner is feed from the circuit breaker distribution bus


Questions:

look at above changes in your assumptions, I think the question will be answered.

Also the 115 outlets and the shore power each will have 2 additional wires. Ground (normaly white) and frame ground (normaly bare copper or green)  they need to be connected inside the box in the ciruit breaker area to the ground bus and the frame ground bus. 

Note: Color of wires may not follow the standard use colors.  So pay attention when you disassemble the old box to make sure you understand how a wire was used and label it if it does not follow the standard use of colors.

Also: you need to knock out some holes in the back of the box.  Because the box is plastic, I would score the holes with a knife to make sure you don't break the box.  You will need some cable clamps for the shore power, aic condinitor, and 115V outlet wire to make sure they can not be pulled out of the box.

If your CS2000 does not have a frame ground wire (bare copper or green) running to the frame of the trailer, I would add one to the frame of the trailer to the frame gound bus in the ciruit breaker compartment








Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 07, 2012, 09:03:30 am
Okay, it looks to me like you both are saying the same thing, which is good.  I've printed out the manual already, and I will print out this thread before I get started.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: mike4947 on June 07, 2012, 10:18:13 am
Just as an FYI to anyone thinking about the same project; save yourself a heap of time and frustration and talk to Randy at http://www.bestconverter.com/ (http://www.bestconverter.com/)
Great folks to work with and they seen it all and done it all and are a great source for any thing converter. They know what fits what and if there is a direct replacement without any modifying.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 07, 2012, 10:39:32 am
Okay, it looks to me like you both are saying the same thing, which is good.  I've printed out the manual already, and I will print out this thread before I get started.

Thanks!

Mike, when you finish installing the converter, could you make some notes with how the installinon went, problems, etc.. and add it to this post.  It might be helpfull for other people in the futrue.   

Wavery, knock out job with those photos and instructions.  It took me a long time to finsh typing my responce and you must have reply while I was typing.  If I would have seen your responce, I would have stoped typing.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 07, 2012, 10:44:58 am
Okay, it looks to me like you both are saying the same thing, which is good.  I've printed out the manual already, and I will print out this thread before I get started.

Thanks!
We are saying the same thing. I was just trying to take the "Boogie-man" out of it by applying some visual and understanding so that you (and others) are less concerned about damaging something.

There really isn't a reason to get "Tied into" buying a direct replacement converter. Once one understands what they do, it opens up the door to become creative.

I wanted a high-tech 45A converter for my camper because I used to use the generator for battery charging and I wanted the best bang for the $ to reduce generator run time and also be able to leave my camper plugged in at home full time. After much research I decided on this PROGRESSIVE DYNAMICS PD9245 RV POWER CONVERTER CHARGER:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROGRESSIVE-DYNAMICS-PD9245-RV-POWER-CONVERTER-CHARGER-/150809309515?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231cef714b&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROGRESSIVE-DYNAMICS-PD9245-RV-POWER-CONVERTER-CHARGER-/150809309515?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231cef714b&vxp=mtr)


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on June 15, 2012, 03:33:44 am
The new converter is in and I will print out this thread now.  I hope to begin work on it this weekend.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 24, 2012, 06:29:21 pm
I got mine installed.  All went well,
 
 - had to make my cutout hole about 1 inch higher

 - very good pick on going from cs-2000 (20 amp) to wf-8735 (35 amp), it is so under used, you have to work at loading it up to have the fan come on.

 - Also, we use to unplug the propane sensor fuse when we lowered the unit to stop the battery drain.  When I did this the led lite and supplied 3.3 volts through the led circuit to the propane sensor.  So I'm looking at a battery kill switch.

 - had one area of concern until I figured it out: tested the fuse leds, by removing fuses.  They don't come on unless there is a load. had to turn on the lights, etc

Also: my old unit had 3 wire running to one fuse.  2 were lights (4 lights), 1 was the pump and toilet.  I took the pump and toilet and put it on its own fuse.  Figured, maybe it will reduce the lights dimming when the pump comes on.  Have not tested 

I ended up with 1 unused 12v fuse  that can be loaded with 30 amps.  room for growth


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on June 24, 2012, 08:29:20 pm
Good job. You'll be much happier with that converter and your batteries will last longer and charge faster. You will be able to leave the camper plugged in 24/7, if you have an outlet available.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on June 24, 2012, 09:19:03 pm
Good job. You'll be much happier with that converter and your batteries will last longer and charge faster. You will be able to leave the camper plugged in 24/7, if you have an outlet available.

Thanks for your advice on switching it out, pushed over to replacing it vs trying to keep the cs2000 runing.

I spent the weekend fixing things and doing maintenance on this new to us camper. I'm now into to the list of mods we want.   Headed out next weekend for for our big trip this year.  10 days 1,400 mile and 4 sp's up the east side of lake michigan into the up.   Felling real good about the pup.  


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on August 28, 2012, 12:18:20 pm
Well, I finally got around to working on mine.  I've decided to sell my camper so I figured I'd better get on the ball and fix what I could.

I started my process by labelling all the wires that went into the converter and where all the wires terminated in the converter.  This helped immensely down the road.

I also had decided to put in the extra circuit so that I could separate the AC and DC circuits.

When I started to reconnect the shore wires, I ran into the first problem.  I could not figure out how to connect the hot wire!  In the CS2000 the hot wire connected directly to a "distribution of bus bar" (not sure of the correct name).  The circuit breakers connected directly to this bar and the output came from the screw terminal of the CB.

In the WFCO 8735 there is no connection to the "bar" to connect the shore hot wire to!  After some sitting, looking and thinking it through, I realized that the hot wire connects to what the WFCO is calling the "main breaker".  When this breaker is on, then it connects power to the "bar".

Next, reconnecting all the wires that I labelled, I realized that the four DC circuits of the CS2000 could be connected to any of the circuits of the WFCO, it really didn't matter which and the colored wires were different anyway.  I elected to keep them in the same order...so the wire that was in the #1 DC slot I connected to the #1 DC slot of the WFCO...just to keep them in the same order.

Because the WFCO had six wires, two are not being used.  While all this may seem quite simple, it took me a "little bit longer" to figure it out than it is for me to type it here!

I connected the AC up as well.  Thank goodness I labelled all the wires.  That helped a lot just to understand how it was set up.

The final issue was this - after I connected all the DC up, and with the battery unhooked, I checked the voltage at each fuse per the installation manual.  Everyone was perfect.  Then I turned off the DC breaker, hooked up the battery, came back inside...and when I turned the breaker back on, the fuse for the battery charging circuit immediately blew!  What the .....

The only idea I could come up with was that the battery voltage was really low - 5V.  I thought that maybe...just maybe...because the voltage was so low that it immediately took a large charging current that exceeded the 15A fuse.  I really didn't know if that was right but it was the only thing I could think of.

So I used an external connection to an external battery charger and did a deep cycle recharge overnight.  The next day I tried the same steps again and it worked perfectly.  The fuse did not blow and the battery shows a charging voltage.

So voila!  It is done.  New charger with better separation of circuits and a better charger for the battery.  I can't thank all of you enough for all your help.  I did print out this entire thread, as I said back on page 3 :) and used it during the entire process.

Now....My air conditioner has not worked for the first time this summer.  I'm trying to figure out if I can fix that myself or have to take it somewhere to get it fixed.  I am going to start a new thread on that.

As soon as I get that fixed, I'll put it up for sale and move on to the next phase of life!

Thanks again!


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on August 28, 2012, 12:38:12 pm
Sound like you got it.   You are getting voltage to the AC unit?


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on August 29, 2012, 02:42:55 am
Where would I measure that?  I have the schematics.  My dad's first thought was that it was the capacitor.  I talked to an RV service center yesterday.  They want $105/hr.

It would be nice if I could do it myself.  I'm pretty sure the fan is not turning.  They said something about foreign material might be lodged in it and preventing it from turning.  If that's right, other parts should work, right?  This unit has a heater as well, which I'm guessing does not use the compressor but does use the fan.

If the heater element gets hot, for example, then I can conclude that that part of the circuit is okay.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: NJMike on August 29, 2012, 02:53:48 am
I've moved to my other thread which was already started for the A/C...please reply there.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: beemerphile1 on August 29, 2012, 04:48:19 am
...it immediately took a large charging current that exceeded the 15A fuse.  I really didn't know if that was right but it was the only thing I could think of.

So I used an external connection to an external battery charger and did a deep cycle recharge overnight.  The next day I tried the same steps again and it worked perfectly.  The fuse did not blow and the battery shows a charging voltage...

If you installed a WFCO8735 it has an output of 35 amp so the wire to the battery should be fused at 40 amp, not 15.  Of course you need wire capable of 40 amp which would be 8 gauge.  If not 8 gauge then the fuse should be for the wire rating.  Wire gauge of 14 would take a 15 amp fuse.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on August 29, 2012, 07:07:46 am
For the battery charge line you should have it fused at 20 or 30 amps.   If you take a dead battery you will find for a shourt period they 20+ amps.   When i installed the 8735 my fusesat my battery were 30 amps and I fused the battery charge line at the converter to 30 AMPs.  I would try steping up my fuse to 20 amps and if that does not work 30 amps.  Check your wire gauge. 

Wire gauge with not noticible diffrence in temp  with ampage draw:
 - 15 Amps  14 gauge
 - 20 Amps  20 gauge
 - 30 Amps  30 gauge


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on August 29, 2012, 08:12:35 am
 

Wire gauge with not noticible diffrence in temp  with ampage draw:
 - 15 Amps  14 gauge
 - 20 Amps  20 gauge
 - 30 Amps  30 gauge

What??????? this makes absolutely no sense..... :-\


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: beemerphile1 on August 29, 2012, 08:19:53 am
Wire gauge with not noticible diffrence in temp  with ampage draw:
 - 15 Amps  14 gauge
 - 20 Amps  20 gauge
 - 30 Amps  30 gauge

More like;
15 amps = 14 gauge
20 amps = 12 gauge
30 amps = 10 gauge
40 amps = 8 gauge

These are minimums.  When talking DC amperage and battery charging it is always preferable to go one size larger than the minimum to eliminate voltage drop and speed charging.


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on August 29, 2012, 10:19:03 am
For the battery charge line you should have it fused at 20 or 30 amps.   If you take a dead battery you will find for a shourt period they draw 20+ amps.   When i installed the 8735 my fuses at my battery were 30 amps and I fused the battery charge line at the converter to 30 AMPs.  I would try steping up my fuse to 20 amps and if that does not work 30 amps.  Check your wire gauge. 

Wire gauge with not noticable diffrence in temp change to the wire with ampage draw:
 - 15 Amps  14 gauge
 - 20 Amps  20 gauge
 - 30 Amps  30 gauge



Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: wavery on August 29, 2012, 10:30:18 am


More like;
15 amps = 14 gauge
20 amps = 12 gauge
30 amps = 10 gauge
40 amps = 8 gauge

These are minimums.  When talking DC amperage and battery charging it is always preferable to go one size larger than the minimum to eliminate voltage drop and speed charging.

^ ^ This is correct ^ ^


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: Tenttrailer on August 29, 2012, 12:00:50 pm
Sorry, I went into space.

What I'm trying to communicate is: wire size and amps we always think of the rating of national elect code book, which does not reflect the amp wire gauge apability.  So an example is a 14 gage wire we always think of is 15 amps, but in reality its Maximum amps for chassis wiring is around 32 amps, 12 gage wire we think of as rated at 20 amps but the max amp rating is around 40 amps .  The different in the rating is there would be a noticeable change in temperature of the wire.   Then there is a third rating of wire which is what elect company uses for overhead power line, they will get extremely hot and normally they do not have insulations.

Example of using maximum amps for chassis wiring would be on some appliances.  I know I have used in the past are; vacuum cleaners that if used for a while we feel the power cord is slightly warm.  Under the standard code system the wire is most likely to small because there is a noticeable change in the temperature.   

So as I think of it, if I have a wire coming from a battery charger that is 12 gage.  We all think of it as 20 amps, but the true rating of the wire maximum amps chassis wiring is over 40 amps but one you go over 20 amps you will feel changes in the wire temperature.

My experience when I have charged very depleted batteries with a charger capable of delivering 40 + amps.  It always seems that for the first minute, I might see a spike into the 20+ amps, but it quickly drops to the 6-10 amps and very slowly continues drops.  So if for a short time I draw a little more amps and the wire heats up a little and gets warm, but in a minute or two the amp draw drops, Im not concern about it.

The second argument is line resistance or ohms, which turns in to line voltage drop.  I assume a 10 ft. wire for my trailer:  12 gage copper wire is going to be 0.1558 ohm s,  10 gage wire is going be0.09989 ohms,  8 gage wire is going to be 0.06282 ohms. 

 If you use ohms law with the worst resistance 0.1558 ohms at 12v.  If my math is right, the current path is capable of 77 amps, which with a 12 gage wire I think the wire would melt.   So any of these wires line resistance is far below what we need.   

Now in my case the manufacture has an 8 gage wire from my battery to the charger and had a 20 amp fuse on the charger charge line and a 30 amp fuse on the battery to trailer and charge line, which far exceeds what I need if I was a cheap engineer.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a beliver in over doing it. But at the same time I think a 12 gage wire with 30 amp fuses would work fine if my assumption on the amp/druation draw of charging is correct.   


Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: ST Dog on September 20, 2017, 08:57:33 am
So many errors in what Tenttrailer posted.


12AWG wire would be 1.619 ohms/1000ft. So a 10ft run would be 0.016 ohms.

Current ratings depend on the wire/insulation used, ambient temperature, and how many wires are bundled together.

At 30*C, NEC says 25A for a single 12AWG wire, but if you bundle 3 together (like in a power cord or Romax) then it's only safe for 20A. Not clear what insulation/rating that is for though, but probably safe for most primary wire on the market.

For that 10ft of 12AWG wire at 25A the voltage drop from the wire would be 0.4V. That wouldn't affect the bulk charging mode, and when you get to the later, top off charging the currents are much lower anyway.





Title: Re: Power Converter CS-2000 - switch to wf-8735 - overheating aluminum CB Bus
Post by: ScoobyDoo on September 20, 2017, 10:02:46 am
So many errors in what Tenttrailer posted.


12AWG wire would be 1.619 ohms/1000ft. So a 10ft run would be 0.016 ohms.

Current ratings depend on the wire/insulation used, ambient temperature, and how many wires are bundled together.

At 30*C, NEC says 25A for a single 12AWG wire, but if you bundle 3 together (like in a power cord or Romax) then it's only safe for 20A. Not clear what insulation/rating that is for though, but probably safe for most primary wire on the market.

For that 10ft of 12AWG wire at 25A the voltage drop from the wire would be 0.4V. That wouldn't affect the bulk charging mode, and when you get to the later, top off charging the currents are much lower anyway.




 

  I don't know near enough to dispute anything you say, but waiting 5 years to say somebody is wrong? [:D]